... i'm having problems getting fired up to write. not for lack of topics, just the effort to sit down and capture it all. bascially, laziness prevails...
-this weekend i was moving and had borrowed a truck from work. i've been riding the motorcycle pretty much non-stop since i got it so it was the first time i'd been exposed to that much broadcast radio in awhile. one of the radio stations was playing the same bit every hour or so about the warped tour. apparently some band is letting the whole audience know that if they're enrolled in a public high school, all of their information is being given to the military recruiters. the funny part about this is that the newscaster was just making a big deal about this like it was some huge conspiracy. "part of the no child left behind act". this has been going on for years. if you go to a public school that receives federal funding for any of a lot of programs, the school tends to give military recruiters access to student contact information. military recruiters are allowed on campus to try recruit kids at job/college fairs. they're allowed to put literature in counselors' offices and can administer the asvab or a pre-asvab on campus. it's not a big deal. we're still a volunteer military. selective service is still required by law at age 18. the military is a very viable, sound career choice for many, many individuals. one of the services that the federal government is commissioned to provide is security for the nation. this requires a military force. the goverment is just trying to fulfill one of the obligations it is tasked with. i could go on and on about the silliness of this but i'm tired. the less than funny part of this though, is how far removed we're getting from a personal sense of obligation to the success of the nation. i've got family in thailand still, my mom was born there, as was i. while i was brought to the U.S. way to early in my life to remember any of thailand, i've still heard and seen enough to know how good i've got it here. it's an honor to me to be allowed to serve my country as a member of the military. alot of people still feel the same as me, and serve their country and fellow man in multiples ways; as nurses, doctors, police officers, teachers and firemen and many other thankless civil service jobs. but the outrage that people have about this recruitment issue is still scary to me.
-openmindedness. this is kind of related to the above topic. guess what? just because you go watch the gay pride parade doesn't make you "open-minded". a group of guys i was in iraq with were helping me to move and we were having a discussion about the military recruiters that had to leave a college campus in seattle because members of the student body got violent and had begun to throw things at them and were rioting their presence on campus at a job fair. this discussion was sparked by one of the radio things about the warped tour, and some nosey individual overheard us and butted into our conversation and started bashing the military and the recruiters for being on campus. hey, it's okay for other companies to come onto campus and try to recruit, but not the military. anyways, we started to poke holes in their argument and one of the guys said it was time to leave, and besides, the individual was closed minded and the argument wasn't going to make a difference. at hearing himself described as "closed minded" the guy became furious and started ranting and raving about how he was one of the most open minded people around. and actually used his gay friends and his attendence of a pride parade as proof. our military service had obviously brain-washed all of us and we wouldn't know "open-mindedness" if it bit us in the ass. i had no idea how effective an insult calling someone "closed minded" could be. but after a little reflection, i've found it funny to look back at the people i've associated with over the years. without a doubt, most of the ones who thump their chests and proclaim the loudest to be open minded are some of the hardest ones to have a even-tempered discussion with when we disagree on a topic, whether it's gun control, the roles of gays/women in the military, child rearing techniques, politics, religion or anything else. (and yes, i realize that while making a point about open-mindedness i'm painting some really broad strokes). they may never have fired a gun, raised a child, been in the military or whatever, but they will refuse to cede a point. they don't have to agree with who ever is arguing with them completely, but there should be some good back and forth discussions. (and no cynic, i'm not talking about you here, you've given your grudging blessing on somethings over the years and have ceded on several points). one of the things that is really fun for me is to watch how such people interact with a friend of mine. jason is really one of the most open minded people i know (and doesn't profess to be), but he has a confident, poised way of presenting himself that intimidates alot of people. and they make some very snap decisions based on that image, especially when they hear that he was former military. and most of those decisions or first impressions are wrong.
blah. i started this hours ago, and so much stuff kept popping up at work. so instead of getting the other random thoughts out there, i'm bailing. it's time to go home.
later.
11 comments:
Is it that the kids' information is being passed on? Or just that the military recruiters allowed to pass on info/attend fairs and functions?
If it was a case of the kid's information being passed on, I'd be pretty upset with that. Attendance at school functions I'd have no problem with.
nb: I'm Australian and customs are different here. It's been a while since I was in school but I don't recall ever seeing or having anything to do with any military recruiters while at school or college.
Yeah, it's the kids info being passed on....right down to our phone numbers...I did fantastic in high school and blew the asvab out of the water (which, BTW, was not an optional test) So, I was pretty well harassed for a year or so by recruiters. It was a bit irritating.
But, I totally agree that it is a good career choice for some. As you said, though, I choose to serve my country in the trenches of the classroom....
Here's an interesting question....
Can I be pro-military and anti-war at the same time?????
They harrass you - like telemarketers? Now that I'd have a big problem with. Is there any 'opt out'?
asvab btw - what's that?
Oh and pro-military at the same time as anti-war? Yeah, I can see that.
Exactly caramaena and sbs, the difference is subtle, but in years previous, the military--like any other college or service organization--was allowed to leave literature and interview students who independently chose to take it. Part of what was snuck in a back door with the adoption of NCLB was the provision that now the military AUTOMATICALLY gets all contact information for ALL ENROLLED STUDENTS, whether they want to provide it or not. You have to specifically request to "opt out", and the "opt out" procedure is not well-publicized at all.
I work as an administrator in a public school system. If you want to sign up for military service, go right ahead. That's YOUR CHOICE. But no one's information should be arbitrarily handed over without consent. For any group, military, political, social, whatever. THAT'S the distinction people are up in arms about, and I'm all for their outrage. I am not anti-military; I am anti-disemination of my private contact information without consent.
Irish, you can find that info on the Social Security Administration's web site. Even famous people's info.
Back to original topic: I don't really have a problem with the info being given to recruiters. I'd rather see this than the return of the draft.
If they call, and you aren't interested, just say no. Better yet, get Caller ID, and don't even answer.
Hell, my son would love to go into the military (he's 19), but I don't think he could, due to a very mild case of asthma. That really sucks, and to me, the foolishness of that rule is far worse than high school students' info being given to recruiters.
It is OUR country, after all. Why in the hell would you impede recruiters for the military? We NEED people in the military.
my thing is, the federal government has the information regardless. they could get that information to the recruiters in multiple different ways, which could quite possibly be a helluva lot more expensive than a recruiter going to the the school and getting copies of the enrollment records. we could create an elaborate system to pull all of the information out of the social security records and ship it to the recruiters, we could do something with irs records to pull dependent names and ssn's and phone numbers and get those to the recruiters. this isn't a nefarious scheme kidnap children, or sell credit cards to kids and get them into debt. plenty of people get called, tell the recruiters "no thank you" and that should be the end of it. recruiters aren't going to kick the doors down and snatch the kids out of their beds in the middle of the night and spirit them away to hidden training camps.
i do definately think you can support the military and not support policies of the government. just remember, the military is just an instrument of policy, not a decider of policy.
i fully admit that having any telemarketer harrass you is annoying. while i'm not too concerned about privacy (i believe anybody that wants to find something out about you can, it's just a matter of the time, effort and money it will involve) i understand those concerns as well. but the thing is, the american public through congress has mandated that the military will maintain certain strength levels. but this is the same public that complains when the military takes steps like these meet those imposed requirements.
Hah, oh I knew you weren't talking about me. Well, I had an inkling you weren't talking about me.
Furthermore, I would hardly call myself "Open minded" my mind is pretty tightly closed on a few things. *L*
I for the record, I do believe the cedeing has gone both ways... ok, maybe once.... possibly twice. Don't ask for specific instances.
Do the recruiters stop though, when you say no thanks? It sounds like they didn't for sbs.
I think that's why I wouldn't want my info passed on. Telemarketers are hard enough to get rid of!
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